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Post by dressler on Mar 14, 2012 15:54:05 GMT -8
Vote for it please and please be honest ...
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Post by fig2k4 on Mar 14, 2012 16:55:04 GMT -8
It's hard to judge at this point in time because the upgrades aren't finished. AFAIK it's basically the same software set up as before with some fixes and tweaks. Once the new system is in place, the hardware upgrades etc. will be more noticeable and everything should be faster. I'm sure everyone's hoping for the same result, including adfoc.us.  |
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Post by Kambatra on Mar 15, 2012 10:54:47 GMT -8
Hey admin,Today i searched on google and found this. Read this post -> forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2423210 read out this post by some people who tried your site and got nothing except tears.this is nothing,many people will post on their blogs,sites and forums etc and you will be declared as scam.so i am just conveying you that don't save money,make your reputation if you wanna compete adfly.publishers were of adfly attracted to your just because of payout rates. now adfly is giving little bit less than your's adf.ly/rates.php but they are not giving dis satisfaction to their publishers like you are giving.your ticket reply comes after 3 - 4 days.bla bla bla bla. |
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Post by AdFoc.us on Mar 15, 2012 18:10:15 GMT -8
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Whether it is positive or negative feedback I appreciate the constructive nature of threads like these Not sure about that DigitalPoint thread.. I don't know the specifics behind that user without looking it up. It seems like the user who submitted the thread has not finished the red flag review process. After reviews of these red flags we often will reverse our decision and remove the flag. Most of time our assumption is correct (violation of ToS) and the user's red flag remains. We red flag users because it is important to maintain our service for the legitimate users. Our ToS is very clear but many users seem to ignore it or not verify their traffic beforehand. I know this is an issue and I have some ideas to make the red flag/review process faster and more informative. I plan to launch a red flag system within AdFoc.us where audits are done on a regular basis for every active user. This way, you will receive notification of a red flag within 2-3 days instead of the current system. I intend to adjust the ToS a lot and make it *very* clear about each rule and what is allowed and what is not allowed. Right now, I think a lot of people are not paying attention to the ToS and often times these users are unaware that their account is sending invalid traffic. If our ToS weren't as precise, we'd be paying for a lot of poor quality traffic which has little to no value to advertisers. Because we have been very efficient at catching users who violate our ToS as well as having a conversation with our red flag users to better understand their traffic source, we'll be able to substantially increase our payout rates very soon. I know it's been a rouge patch but I assure you we are taking this feedback seriously and working towards becoming a better service. My transparency with you guys is a good start, I hope! |
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Post by Kambatra on Mar 15, 2012 20:26:03 GMT -8
Admin,why don't you reply my ticket?if we post something related to red flag here then you feel jealous about that.what should we do then?huh
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Post by dressler on Mar 15, 2012 21:04:20 GMT -8
Ok , so you are red flagging the accounts and all that is fine , but do you give back the credit to the advertisers ?
If not ,then isn't this encouraging you to have more accounts with red flag so that you can keep more money for yourself ?
I am not judging or anything , but this is how google adsense works and one of the reasons they had made it this way was to ensure that the advertisers get what they are paying for and at the same time google does not make any profit if the publisher is not been paid ...
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Post by dressler on Mar 15, 2012 21:46:31 GMT -8
Kambatra -- Please stop being so pessimistic ... I was just asking the staff if they are crediting the advertisers in case of red flagging of the publishers account who might have sent traffic to them... chances are they are already doing it ...
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Post by AdFoc.us on Mar 17, 2012 17:08:36 GMT -8
Advertisers don't receive traffic from accounts with warns/bans once they are warned/banned.
This is why it's important for us to switch to a system where we are constantly warning/banning so that we avoid sending advertisers any traffic that falls in these categories.
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Post by dressler on Mar 17, 2012 17:18:31 GMT -8
Since you will not be paying the publishers for their last months earning if their account gets banned for some reason , what do you do in that case ?
Since you are not paying anyone for the traffic that the banned publisher sent you , and also advertiser did not get what you promised him for (the quality of traffic)....
What do you do in that case ....
That's what I was referring to ..
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Post by AdFoc.us on Mar 17, 2012 17:59:12 GMT -8
Over time the quality of traffic is refined more and more because of warnings/bans. I plan to increase the frequency of these warnings/bans so that the traffic quality is refined immediately. To answer your question, our current system does not refund advertisers for the traffic that overlaps warns/bans. It looks at the current warns/bans and takes that into consideration. I think the difference that you are referring to is a very small amount. I will look into it and I think it's a good idea to provide compensation every month or so to the advertisers who received some warn/ban traffic that was not caught until later! Thanks for pointing that out |
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Post by AdFoc.us on Mar 17, 2012 18:01:12 GMT -8
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Post by dressler on Mar 17, 2012 19:03:47 GMT -8
No kidding please , my account with $750+ just got banned and i dont think that's a small amount when it comes to online advertising - Dont you think a lot of advertisers would have been delivered the traffic that they did not deserve ?
I am doing all this inspection cuz i promote my sites mostly with clicksor , matomymedia and adf.ly and none of them are doing what I am asking you to do ... I guess that will get you a really good number of advertisers when they come to know that you are offering credit back , if the publisher who sent the traffic gets his/her account banned ....
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Post by AdFoc.us on Mar 21, 2012 2:58:56 GMT -8
Exactly, there is a decent amount of credit that we owe from this type of traffic, which will be added once we are able to audit users more regularly (in the next 1-2 months). Since we are relatively new, it wasn't noticed until recently that advertisers were getting a small amount of ban/warn traffic. It's not a significant amount but the advertisers deserve what they paid for.
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